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21 March 2011 By Juan Cole Christina Abraham, a Civil Rights attorney and
Director at CAIR-Chicago was on the
Eric Bolling hosted
Fox Business News show Follow the Money
(which is like Fox 2.0, I didn't know rednecks cared
all that much about business?) debating professional
anti-Freedom, anti-Muslim bigot Robert Spencer. She
essentially tore him a new *you know what* and also
mentioned LoonWatch and Spencerwatch! Before we get to the debate I want to mention that
Eric Bolling's show is not only a right-wing
propaganda show, not only is it a circus
but it is also racist. The previous night
Abraham was on the show debating
Frank Gaffney, before she came on
Bolling spoke with Zuhdi Jasser about the
Peter
King Hearings. The intro into the discussion
displayed these words on the bottom of the screen,
"The New Arab Threat." If that weren't bad
enough Bolling also said, "Don't we have the right to protect ourselves
from the Arabs among us who want to
do us harm?"
Freudian slip anyone, or was it pre-meditated? I haven't been able to find video online of the
screen display anymore but you can clearly hear what
Bolling says (@ 0.58 seconds) in the video below, The above debate is well worth the watch as Abraham
makes short work of the libelous charges that Gaffney
attempts to bring up to "deflect" from the actual
debate on the so-called "Radicalization of Muslim
American Hearings." The debate with Spencer was interesting. It exposed
Spencer's M.O. of innuendo, citation of spurious
sources, resort to conspiracy theory and his
hypocritical double standards when facing an opponent
who is not a push over. Bolling attempted to accuse Abraham of urging
Muslims not to cooperate with the
FBI
by showing a video in which Abraham warns the
community of FBI "fishing expeditions" (a well
documented fact) and urges them to exercise their
right to an attorney anytime they speak with law
enforcement. This is clear propaganda from Bolling, attempting
to take what is a legal Constitutional Right and throw
it out the window when it comes to Muslims. It seems
Bolling does not know that everyone, including Muslims
have a right to an attorney.
Rep. Loretta Sanchez challenged this
exact Right-wing talking point during the hearings
when she questioned Zuhdi "native informant" Jasser, "The right to have an attorney present when
speaking to law enforcement is a specific principle
of American civil liberty," Ms. Sanchez said
sharply, adding, "So by what legal principle do you
assert that any minority in America should waive
that American principle?" Spencer jumped in and rambled for a good while with
non-sequiturs about
CAIR,
saying it wants "Islamic governance" and is a
"subversive organization," etc. Abraham corrected him
and told him that what he was saying was "not the
truth," and that he was only "spreading misinformation
and lies." Spencer seemed a little flustered by this
and went onto try to accuse Abraham of victimizing him
and not letting him speak. When Abraham's turn came to respond to Spencer, he
immediately began interrupting her. I believe that is
the definition of Chutzpah. He accuses her of
interrupting him and then goes on to interrupt her
during the complete amount of time she is responding
to him. Luckily enough Abraham still puts Spencer in
his place, drilling him with facts and also pointing
out (@8:18): "It is no surprise to me Mr. Spencer that a
person like you who has websites such as
Loonwatch.com and Spencerwatch.com, that
are devoted to talking about the crazy things that
you say would come around and criticize people for
educating their community about their
Civil
Rights and Constitutional Rights, it's people
like you who are un-American because you advocate
for criminalizing an entire group of people and
organization without giving them due process." Can you say "slammed?" Bolling then strangely showed a PSA from
Iraq
that is part of a campaign against the prevalent
phenomena of "suicide bombing" there. Last I checked
there aren't many of those in the USA. However,
Spencer attempted to use this as an opportunity to go
after American Muslims and to use discredited reports
from anti-Muslims, neo-Cons and White supremacists to
further the conspiracy theory that "85% of Mosques are
run by radicals." He cites Mapping Sharia, a project
undertaken by the racist organization SANE (Society of
Americans for National Existence) and David Gaubatz.
Good going Spencer. Toward the end Abraham quoted Spencer saying, "there
is no distinction in the American Muslim community
between peaceful Muslims and Jihadists" and
rightly described the statement as one made by an
"insane person." On his site, Spencer licked his wounds and
attempted to declare victory:
Pamela Geller and I were on Fox Business's
"Follow the Money" tonight, discussing the Peter
King hearings. First I "debated" a spokesperson for
Hamas-linked CAIR, Christina Abraham, who was
following Muhammad's "war is deceit" principle, and
then Pamela appeared on Bolling's panel refuting
politically correct falsehoods. She comments on the
proceedings here. "War is deceit" principle? Conspiracy-much?
Pamela's take on it might give us a clue as to what
Spencer means: You'll enjoy this. Robert Spencer and I were on
Eric Bolling's show on Fox Business. This is the
first time we have appeared together on the same
show. Very cool. Un-indicted co-conspirator, Hamas-linked
CAIR joined also and "debated" Spencer, if you can
call lies, deceit and ad hominem attacks a "debate."
As CAIR tried out another spokesperson, this
one was a beaut. Literally.
Nihad Awad was so creepy they had to find a
better face.
Ibrahim Hooper must have been tending his
bees. They once trotted out a very American,
vanilla-type convert, Corey Saylor, Director of
Government Affairs for the
Council on American-Islamic Relations, but
methinks he wasn't vicious enough for the wolf pack. Today's CAIR spokersperson was a doozy.
Going by the name "Christina Abraham" (got that?
looks like she's got the Christians and the Jews
covered with that name), an uncovered
Western-looking woman unleashed her fury on Robert.
Apparently she is a devout Muslim, because in
undercover footage of her urging Muslims not to co-coperate
with law enforcement, she is in full Muslim garb.
Muhammad said, "war is deceit."
Indeed. Watch the video — there is nothing she
doesn't twist or lie about. She tried one lie after
another. She denied this, too. Kudos to Spencer for
not standing down. I follow on the panel to debunk the lies and
discuss the King hearings. Geller seems much enamored by Christina Abraham who
she terms "a beaut," perhaps seeing someone not botox-filled
brings on envy or something? Supposedly, Abraham was
in "war is deceit" mode and only took off the hijab
for this encounter so as to appear more…American? That
is the ridiculous import of what Geller intends to
say. Does she not consider that Abraham has a mind of
her own? Or that may be she was at a mosque speaking
to Muslims, kinda like when
Hillary Clinton or
Laura Bush would don hijabs while entering
mosques? Oh well, nuance and facts aren't Geller's or
Spencer's strongest points but bigotry and hate still
are. |