"The
Defeat Of America In Afghanistan Will Be Swifter Than The
Defeat Of The Collapsed Soviet Union" -- Sheikh Jalaluddin
Haqqani
05 May 2011
By Al-Ikhwah Al-Mujahidun
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious and the
Most Merciful.
Interviewed by Shihabuddin
Ghazni
Dear Readers,
Al-Somood magazine wished to
interview Field Commander Jalaluddin Haqqani, one of
the most prominent Jihadist personalities and the
military official for the provinces of Khost and
Paktia, about the latest political and military
developments on the Afghan front. The Sheikh has
privileged al-Somood magazine with this interview. We
thank him, and regard this interview as a realistic
assessment of the accomplishments of the Mujahideen by
one who lives physically and mentally at the heart of
the conflict and who sees with his Jihadist
perspective what political analysts do not see from
the outside.
Question: Your
excellency Sheikh Haqqani, would you please give
readers of al-Somood information about your health
situation?
Answer: In the name of
Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful, Who granted
victory to His servants and glory to His soldiers, Who
fulfilled His covenant, and defeated the factions
alone. Praise be to Allah Who blessed us with the
Religion of Islam, the greatest of religions. Prayers
and peace upon the noblest of His creation, Muhammad,
and upon his household and his companions and all who
are guided by him! Thereafter…Praise be to Allah
Almighty, I am in complete health and vigor. By
complete health, I mean that, despite my great age,
and despite the unstable security conditions I have
been experiencing, I have not faced any health
problems hindering me from
conducting my Jihadist activities.
Question: Local
and global media recently reported news of the
seriousness of your health situation. Indeed,
there have been spread news of your death or your
martyrdom in a barbarous bombing attack. What is the
truth of these rumors?
Answer: I say that the
fact you are interviewing me and that I am alive
amongst you is sufficient to falsify these rumors. If
we compared my health situation to those rumors, we
would reach the conclusion that I am in full health
and not suffering from any illnesses. There is no
truth behind the spread of those rumors and lying
reports and these are deceptive claims of the enemy.
A second thing is that health,
sickness, death and martyrdom are divine destinies. We
believe in Allah-ordained fate and destiny. These
destinies are ordained for every person and none can
escape them. Every human being must taste death, and
everything destined for him will occur at its
appointed time.
The Sublime and Exalted says:
"Nor can a soul die except by Allah's leave, the term
being fixed as by writing" (Al-i-Imran 154).
And the Almighty says "every
soul shall have a taste of death in the end to Us
shall ye be brought back". (Al-Ankabut 57).
I mention to you that although I
have faced many bitter days and have spent most of my
days in Jihad and battling the enemy; have endured
serious crises and have been wounded many times in
battles that erupted between us and our enemies among
the kuffar and munafiqeen – despite all
that, I am in perfect health.
I also state that martyrdom and
death fi sabeel Allah are among the dearest
wishes of my life. All my life I have wished to be
killed and to sacrifice myself and my soul fi
sabeel Allah and to support his Deen with which he
has blessed us and to deliver his servants from the
oppression of the oppressors and the deceits of the
infidels. But I have not been to achieve my dearest
wishes yet.
Question:
Excellency Sheikh, more than seven years have passed
since the Crusader occupation of Afghanistan.
Their forces stationed in Afghanistan number more than
70,000 persons armed to the teeth with the most modern
types of military equipment. On the other hand, the
Mujahideen confront them with scarce resources and
paltry equipment. Based on your Jihadist and military
experience, and in view of the imbalance in numbers
and equipment between the two sides, what are your
expectations of the defeat of the Crusaders in the
face of the Mujahideen resistance, from your
perspective?
Answer:
If we looked at the ongoing battle between
truth and falsehood in Afghanistan, we would
understand from an historical standpoint it is
considered an unique battle and asymmetrical encounter
between Islam and infidelity. There is only one
precedent in the history of Islam of such an intense
battle and that is the Ghazwat al-Ahzab. There
the Mujahideen achieved a great victory in the end.
Here, also the Mujahideen will achieve victory by the
will and permission of Allah. The assistance of Allah
Almighty for the Mujahideen and the support of the
people by their side, as well as recent military and
political events are among the evidence and
indications that prove our claims and back up our
words.
I add to that, all the reasons
and factors that led to the fall of the Russian Empire
at the hands of the Afghan Mujahideen are today facing
the American Empire. The huge monetary sums America is
spending on the occupation of Afghanistan and the
deaths of dozens of their forces every day
at the hands of the
Mujahideen are among the circumstances that indicate
the victory of the Mujahideen and the defeat of all
aggressor Crusader forces before them.
Question: There
are enormous differences between the Russian
occupation and the American occupation of Muslim
Afghanistan, from the perspective of time,
circumstances and resources. Meaning, at that time
there was an ongoing Cold War between the forces of
East and West. Additionally, the peoples of the world
were angered by the arrogance of Communist actions and
its use of arbitrary methods. For this reason, the
Afghan Jihad received material and moral assistance
from the world. The Mujahideen were permitted the
latitude to carry out Jihadist activities and received
resources and aid from outside the country. But the
situation today is the opposite. The world's affairs
are directed by a unipolar power with no competitor to
balance its power. The entire world stands against the
Jihad and the Mujahideen in the name of the War on
Terror – as they call it – and the Mujahideen enjoy no
financial or military support and no external
political backing from even one country across the
globe. So how can the Mujahideen resist this great
force and triumph against them with empty hands?
Answer:Divine fate and victories often cause
supernatural events that can not be (grasped) by the
human mind. This is not something new today rather
they are constants that have been determined since the
beginning of the outbreak of the battle between truth
and falsehood across the pages of history. If we look
at history, we would find that divine criteria are
based on this premise. The Sublime and Exalted says,
"How oft, by Allah's will, hath a small force
vanquished a big one? Allah is with those who
steadfastly persevere." (Al-Baqara 249). The
Almighty also says, "O ye who believe! If ye will
aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant
your feet firmly.." (Muhammad 7).
It is true that this world is
(controlled) by reasons; we must therefore look for
means and motivations. We see in the present
circumstances that the Islamic Jihad against the
occupiers provides a strong impetus to the collapse of
the American occupation and its agents. It provides an
impetus whose positive effect is acknowledged by
America and its Crusader alliance. Additionally,
Afghanistan's geographic situation, the strong hatred
around the world towards Americans and huge costs of
the war are factors that play a tangible role in the
failure of those predatory forces. Indeed, I believe
that America's current policy and its violation of all
international agreements are considered as a threat to
the entire world. It is not far-fetched that the world
will one day act against it and adopt a unified policy
towards (America's) failed policy.
It is worth mentioning that
during the time of the Russian occupation of
Afghanistan, it was called the Russian Empire, it was
alleged that the cause behind the victories of the
Mujahideen against the Russian forces were Western aid
and American Stinger missiles. The victory of the
Mujahideen was therefore
attributed to American aid and equipment. The
victories against the American crusaders and their
allies in our present time, however, are the result of
nothing but the heavenly sacrifices of the Mujahideen.
It is impossible to attribute it to any other agency
or ascribe it to baseless causes.
Question: More
than seven years have passed since the Crusader attack
on Afghanistan and America and its allies have used
all of their military and political resources to
subdue the Afghan people. The result of these
practices and attempts has been failure, defeat and
collapse. Moreover, all Western military commanders
and political analysts, among others, have given the
opinion that this war will not be able to achieve any
victory. Despite that, America insists of sending more
military reinforcements to Afghanistan. What is your
assessment of these contradictory actions?
Answer:
I have said before and I say again that America's
involvement in the Afghanistan issue is just like
someone who is losing at gambling. He keeps playing
hoping to win but, in the end, rather than achieving
anything he loses everything he owns.
Undoubtedly, Western admission of
losing the battle in Afghanistan is an established
fact they have to face. Even if they don't acknowledge
it, the coffins and corpses of their slain soldiers
acknowledge it. As for sending additional
reinforcements without achieving victory, I believe
that Allah has ordained the destruction of this unjust
race at the hands of the oppressed Afghans. Two
decades ago the arrogant Russian empire was stricken
from the political map at the hands of this afflicted
people. Likewise, in the previous century, this people
were able to overturn the British Empire. Now,
however, after the fall of the Russian Empire, there
does not remain on this earth a power to compete with
America, which in its turn has committed
vicious crimes against
humanity that have led it to the level of delusion
that it speaks of determining the fate of the world.
But, with the permission and help of Allah Almighty,
it shall encounter the same fate as the previous
Russian and English occupiers did.
Question: Your
excellency sheikh! The Americans and their allies
speak of changing their strategy in Afghanistan after
the passage of more than seven years. Additionally,
the global media has turned the eyes of the people to
the rumor of negotiations being conducted between the
Taliban Movement and the lackey Karazi government.
What is your view of this issue?
Answer: Yes! After more
than seven years, the Americans understand that their
current strategy in Afghanistan is ineffective and
must be changed. It appears that these changes include
different aspects, which are:
First: Increasing the
number of American troops deployed in Afghanistan.
Second: Sowing ethnic
disputes among the Afghan tribes and clans and pitting
some against others, or establishing ethnic awakening
(councils) among them.
Third: Conduct
negotiations with the Mujahideen.
They have pursued these first two
items for a long time but they have not yielded any
positive results worth mentioning.
Now they are trying to implement
the third item, which is negotiate with the Mujahideen,
in order to achieve the following goals:
1. Create divisions and
mistrust among the Mujahideen, by exaggerating the
issue through the global media and international
newspapers. They have spread the story of negotiations
to the point where they have published the location of
the negotiations, the stages of the negotiations, and
the conditions of the two sides. It is natural that
all this media exaggeration will lead to the creation
of an atmosphere of mistrust and ill-feeling. It will
cause annoyance and anxiety among everyone, but it
couldn't be farther from reality.
2. Bestow legal legitimacy
upon the lackey Karzai government by having it play
the role of intermediary in negotiations.
3. Accuse and characterize
the Islamic Emirate as continuing and prolonging the
war by insisting on a military rather than peaceful
resolution and by not participating in negotiations.
As for the position of the
Islamic Emirate towards negotiations, it may be
summarized as follows:
The position of the Islamic
Emirate is the peaceful resolution of all issues of
conflict through peaceful means. The Islamic Emirate
has declared this for eight years and demanded of
America and the United Nations the peaceful resolution
of all issues through peaceful means. But the
Americans were not ready to accept this proposal or
consider this matter. They claimed that their material
strength would enable them to achieve their goals.
They looked on others with scorn and contempt.
Likewise, the Islamic Emirate
tried to settle the crisis through the mediation of
Islamic states at that time. But the despotic
illusions of the Americans made them insist upon
imposing their will on the Islamic Emirate and they
were not prepared to accept any sane or sound
suggestion. They began their barbarous attack on the
Islamic Emirate which resulted in the killing of
thousands of innocents, the destruction of entire
villages and the infliction of more damage upon an
already destroyed Afghanistan.
On the other hand, the resistance
of the Mujahideen has resulted in the killing of
thousands of Crusaders, and the expenditure of
billions of dollars to
conduct their criminal acts. After all that, their
situation has reached the point that they have
acknowledged that they will never win the war.
Question: Your
statements here inform us that there is no benefit to
conducting negotiations at this time. Is that not so?
Answer:
No indeed! The matter as I understand it is that there
is no benefit to it because the Americans and their
allies and the lackey government use the issue of
negotiations as a means to implement their malicious
military conspiracies and not to resolve or end
the problem. I am quite certain that America and its
allies are not sincere about conducting negotiations,
because the basic condition for negotiations is
accommodating the interests of both parties. So they
propose negotiation but at the same time advance only
the conditions of their side. This completely violates
all national and international criteria.
The truth is that the position of
the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan towards
negotiations is clear and unambiguous, predicated on
respect and acceptance of the conditions of the
Emirate that will make it possible to reach the
desired results. Among their conditions is the
unconditional withdrawal of foreign forces from
Afghanistan before anything else. If we look carefully
at the issue of Afghanistan we see that the crux of
the matter is the presence of foreign troops, which
conduct recurring assaults and random bombing which
have caused the deaths of thousands of innocent
civilians and left in their
wake mass massacres of human beings.
Additionally, this presence results in the
deterioration of the security situation and the
imposition of a corrupt and dissolute government.
Everyone knows that high-ranking officials in the
lackey government are involved in various crimes like
drug-smuggling, taking bribes, embezzlement, and
spreading indecency and vice, extortion and other
despicable acts. Even the Americans themselves
acknowledge and publicize these crimes.
Question: You
have referred to the establishment by the Americans of
ethnic militias similar to the Iraqi Awakening
Councils. As a prominent Jihadist figure and
distinguished tribal leader, what is your assessment
of the success of this American tactic in Afghanistan?
Answer:
The Americans are facing the defeat in our country not
only of this tactic, but also of all the plans
and tactics they have adopted in this field, because
they do not know the nature of the Afghan people and
because their plans and programs are insane and
illogical. For example, the Afghan people are
suffering from hunger, poverty and unemployment while
(the Americans) are building recreation and
entertainment facilities for men and women. They build
parks while thousands of people suffer from hunger and
poverty. They drone on about implementing democracy
while the people are killed under their huge bombs and
destructive shells.
On the other hand, anger and
hatred have been kindled among the Afghan people
towards the Americans, their allies and lackeys. Yes,
in this current situation they ask for help and
assistance from the people. Their lack of
understanding of the Afghan environment is one of the
reasons for the failure of all their programs. Even if
they drew the conclusion that this plan was successful
in Iraq and yielded positive fruits, we would say that
the circumstances in Iraq differ from Afghanistan
where there are huge differences among the different
groups. Perhaps these differences provide
the Americans with the
ability to implement this plan to an extent but its
application in Afghanistan is almost impossible.
Question: Your
excellency Sheikh Haqqani, western news agencies
report that your Jihadist movement is independent and
outside the organization of the Islamic Emirate. What
prompts these claims and what is the truth of them?
Answer:
It is well-known that whenever the enemy is
defeated on the battlefield, they intensify their
activities in spreading baseless rumors and claims.
This is typical of those plots of the defeated enemy
and its aim is to create divisions and mistrust among
the Mujahideen. He is not content with that but
spreads many such allegations. Sometimes they spread
rumors of the division of the Mujahideen among
moderates and extremists, and other times they spread
reports of negotiations with them to create divisions
among them. All of these claims are baseless. Praise
be to Allah, all the Mujahideen wage Jihad under the
leadership of the Ameer ul-Momineen Mullah Mohamed
Omar Mujahid against the American invaders and their
lackeys. There is no crisis (of division) under the
names moderate or extremist among the Mujahideen. They
all fight under a unified leadership, according to the
glorious aya: "Strong against the unbelievers (but)
compassionate amongst each other".
I myself am a member of the High
Council of the Islamic Emirate. I also bear on my
shoulders responsibility for Jihad in the provinces of
Khost and Paktika. The biased claims of the
international media agencies are unfounded in truth.
Since we swore allegiance to Ameer ul-Momineen Mullah
Mohamed Omar Mujahid, we have been to his day
steadfast in that allegiance and we are true to (the
Emirate's) principles and decisions. There are no
differences, divisions of discord among the Mujahideen
of the Islamic Emirate.
Additionally, we have a strong
Jihadist experience that makes us acquainted with the
schemes and conspiracies of the kuffar. All
Muslims, and especially the Afghans, know well of
these hostile schemes and plots and that the enemy's
cunning schemes are useless and doomed to fail. I
believe that in the 14th century there is no leader
like Mullah Mohamed Omar Mujahid in terms of bravery,
dignity, zeal and action. This Ameer is a blessing of
Allah Almighty upon us. All the Mujahideen understand
the degree of this blessing and we pray to Allah
Almighty not to take it away from the Muslims. We have
tasted the bitter dregs of a multitude of ameers and
great number of organizational disputes at the time of
the resistance against the Russian army. The multitude
of leaders squandered the fruits of our Jihad and
because of this we lost all that we had gained through
the victories and heroism of our sacred Jihad. We lost
all the achievements we had realized. The Afghan
Muslim people, therefore, will not permit a repeat of
this bitter experience. We are united now and will not
allow anyone to fracture or divide us.
Question: It is also
well-known that south eastern corner of Afghanistan
borders Pakistan. Often the Karzai administration
drones on about Jihadist activities being planned in a
neighboring country (i.e. Pakistan). Likewise, they
claim that many of the Mujahideen of your front belong
to other countries. What is the truth of these claims
in your view?
Answer: It is well-known
among all that the structure of the lackey government
administration is composed of 37 aggressor Crusader
states, yet they drone on a lot about baseless rumors.
I am able to say to you: If operations conducted in
the southeast corner are planned in a neighboring
country, then where are the operations from the
northern and central regions being planned?
Without a doubt, successful
operations which result in the deaths of Crusader
forces occur and are launched in the central provinces
more than elsewhere, and these provinces do not share
borders with neighboring countries. It is the same
with northern provinces like Kanduz, Baghalan, Balkh,
Badakhshan, Jowzjan and other provinces that are far
away from the neighboring country in question
(Pakistan). Where is the planning done for the
operations carried out there? If the support of
governments or states is the cause of victory and
success, then this would have afforded the lackey
Karzai government the opportunity to impose its
control over the entire country and enable it to seize
all its territory, because it has the military backing
alone of 37 countries and politically it is backed by
most of the countries of the world, including
neighboring countries.
As for the presence of non-Afghan
Mujahideen, we say of them: Some of the religious and
zealous young men living in the border regions are
eager for Jihad and sacrifice. This zeal is their
inheritance from their fathers and grandfathers
throughout history, who took part in the Afghan Jihad
and stood by the side of their Afghan brothers against
the British Empire and against the Russian invaders in
1980s. They have battled the occupiers and invaders
who have overreached themselves and they plunged into
battles against them. During the course of these
battles not a few of the men from these regions have
been martyred. The Jihadist zeal present among the
residents of this region remains and they yearn for
sacrifice for the sake of
aiding the Mujahideen and elevating the word of
Tawheed. We for our part support their participation
in the Jihad and consider it as a religious duty to be
performed.
Question: Your
excellency Sheikh Haqqani, we have seen for some time
a deterioration in the security situation in the
border areas, and the martyrdom of hundreds of
innocents and the destruction of their homes due to
barbaric American bombing. What in your view is the
primary factor in the deterioration of this situation?
Answer:
We mentioned before how America threatens the
security of the entire world. It attacked Afghanistan
and set Iraq ablaze. Likewise, the Palestinian and
Somali peoples and others suffer from its tyranny and
injustice. Indeed, the peoples of the world often face
dangers because of its tyrannical oppression. Even the
American people themselves suffer from the failed
plots of its leaders and face many threats when they
travel abroad for commerce or tourism or to
participate in international sporting events. They do
not see security even inside Americas itself, and they
have become confused and worried about this
deteriorating security situation.
The primary cause of the current
financial crisis in the world is American policy.
Therefore, all who choose an American policy and walk
behind America will share its fate. The fires set
alight outside Afghanistan in which Muslims are being
burned are the result of following and supporting the
failed American policy. If such satanic plans and
failed policies continue to be followed then it is
expected that the fires of this tragedy will engulf
the entire region. This is one of the gifts America
gives to those regions where Muslims live.
Question: How do you analyze the victory of
Democrats under the leadership of Obama in the
American elections and the extent of its influence
on the current Afghan
situation?
Answer:
As you well know, kufr is one creed and does
not change its policy towards the Muslims with a
change of personalities. We, therefore see that
Obama's policy towards Afghanistan is in reality a
continuation of the Bush policy. As for what will
happen in the future, we will see whether the
Americans will learn from the experience of the failed
Bush policies and what they can expect from those
policies. Nonetheless, we say that the American people
have put their faith in Obama and have chosen him as
president of the country. He must rescue them from the
predicament into which Bush led them.
Question: At one
time, the Islamic Ummah led the world and was
considered a super power. Today the Ummah is
controlled, afflicted and oppressed. What must the
Muslims do to regain their past glory and previous
honor?
Answer:
The primary factor in restoring honor and glory is
Jihad fi sabeel Allah according to Divine guidance
and laboring for it by a true and sincere path. The
Muslims must also unify ranks and adhere firmly to the
Quran and the Sunnah. If the Muslims wish to reclaim
their lost glory and fundamental greatness, they must
wage Jihad in the cause of Allah Almighty. Their
honor, freedom and independence are linked to their
Jihad. As for the triumph of Jihad, it is linked to
the unification of ranks and complete avoidance of
division and dispute.
Al-Somood:
In closing, we can only thank his Excellency
Sheikh Qa'id Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, may Allah
protect and watch over him, for providing us this
opportunity to speak with him. We thank him profusely
for that and beseech Allah to guard and protect him
from the evil of the kaffireen.
Translated From The Islamic
Emirate Of Afghanistan: Al-Somood Magazine, Issue #30,
Dhu Al-Hijrah 1229 AH, December 2008