Exclusive Interview With Yazid Sufaat,
9/11 Attack Increased The Number Of Adherents Of Islam
05 April 2012
By Al-Ikhwah Al-Mujahidun
The 9/11 attacks in 2001 has left bad memories for
America, around 3,000 people died in the attack and
America have to suffer immense material losses as its
economic center was destroyed. So many pros and cons
over the 9/11 attacks carried out by a handful of
courageous Mujahideen. Some people completely believe
in the conspiracy theories of the West, while some
people (the Muslims in this case) still believe and
want to listen to the words of their brothers with
regards to the 9/11 facts.
Yazid Sufaat is one of those brothers, he is a
husband and a father, biochemist, entrepreneur and
former Army captain who was accused of helping
September 11 2001 attack in America, imprisoned in the
political prison, the Internal Security Act (ISA)
Malaysia since 2002, and then was freed in 2008.
Malaysiakini conducted an interview with Yazid
Sufaat, published in Malaysiakini on
20/3/2012. What follows is a translation of the
article and interview relating to the the 9/11
attacks, a continuation of the earlier interview which
talked about the experience of Yazid Sufaat in
Afghansitan and meeting with Sheikh Usamah bin Laden
rahimahullah. The interview this time discusses about
the 9/11 and the spread of Islam:
The UN said that Yazid Sufaat had in October 2001
met Zacarias Mousaoui - who was in 2006 sentenced to
life imprisonment by a court in the US for planning
the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Centre (WTC) among
others - and gave him at least US$35,000 to prepare
for the attacks..
In an interview at his home, Yazid (right) admitted
that Mousaoui was an employee at his software company.
Yazid said he paid him a stipend to market the
software, which connects computers to telephones
mainly for call-centre purposes, in the US and Europe.
Mousaoui, who he had met at his apartment in Sungai
Long, Selangor, needed a visa to go to the US. After
learning about his computer engineering background,
Yazid offered him the job.
The same apartment, donated to registered Islamic
organization Al-Ehsan Association for its
activities would later be used for planning the 9/11
attacks in what the UN terms the '2000 Al-Qaeda
However, Yazid maintains he was not in Malaysia at
the time and did not know about it.
"Mousaoui never told me he was going to learn
how to fly planes. This guy never told me anything.
Did I give him money to fund 9/11? Let your readers
think for themselves," he said.
Arrested under the Internal Security Act at the
Thai-Malaysian border while on his way back from
Afghanistan in December 2001, Yazid spent at least
seven years at the Kamunting detention camp in Perak -
five of which were in solitary confinement.
'I don't believe in
Yazid Sufaat (48), has a simple answer for the
attack that killed about 3,000 people on 9/11, "If
what the 9/11 attackers did was wrong, Allah would
have "shown signs."
According to him, conversions to Islam have been on
the rise, and as such, the militants who have
allegedly brought a bad name to Islam were actually
doing the "marketing" work.
"Their intentions are pure. What they did is a
form of worship, and they could have made mistakes
here and there. But their faith, their belief in the
oneness of God is true," he said.
"If they made mistakes, in their implementation,
inshaAllah, Allah will forgive them."
"What is unforgivable, he said, is people
establishing laws that go against His words,"
This is why, Yazid said, he does not have faith in
electoral politics. He believes in the system of the
"I don't believe in democracy. The danger of
democracy is that elected representatives become
lawmakers. The Qur'an says there is no law but
Allah's, so they cannot... make laws against what
Allah ordains," Yazid said.
"We don't want to associate ourselves with them
(those who make laws against Allah's word). We don't
want to give Allah's rights to others who will do as
they please and contest Alllah," Yazid asserted.
Excerpts of the interview
Malaysiakini: Was Sept 11
considered a defensive move or a retaliation?
Yazid: I don't know, (but) this is
what I think. They attacked the WTC, that is where the
US centre of economics is... The heart of the Pentagon
is not in Pentagon but in WTC.
Their economic power and intelligence was in WTC.
We wanted to cripple them, we have to bring their
morale down. War is about morale. War is all about
morale. You think you're big, nobody can hit you?!
Malaysiakini: So you are saying
this is the first strike, from Muslim world to Western
capitalist world in recent history?
Yazid: Bring their morale down.
You want to win, bring their morale down. Bring the
morale down, you (will) win the war. (Yazid lowers his
voice) Bring their morale down, bring their morale
Malaysiakini: But what about ...
the bombings in Bali and Jakarta? Is that defending
Yazid: It's like this... I have
been Muslim for 48 years, but I'm still not confident
that my solat is 100 percent correct. Not to
mention (these attackers). Their intentions are pure.
What they did is a form of worship, and they could
have made mistakes here and there.
But their iman, their belief in the oneness
of God is true. If they made mistakes, in their
implementation, God willing, Allah will forgive them.
Malaysiakini: This is referring to
bombings in Jakarta or Bali?
Yazid: I don't want to say that
what they did is wrong. I don't want to speak on that.
Any mistake is only in the implementation, it does not
cancel out their faith.
The important thing is to not lose iman
(become murtad) . If you do, ya Allah ... it is
better to die a Muslim. Even if you die in sin, God
willing, He will forgive you, as long as you don't
Malaysiakini: Specifically, how
does this fit with the likes of (militants who have
passed away) Noordin Mohammad Top and Azahari Husin?
Yazid: I want to ask you one
thing: Who did the marketing of Islam? Who did the
marketing? You answer me. Who did the marketing, who
did the marketing? People like Abu Omar, Osama Laden,
these are the people who market Islam.
Malaysiakini: You mean popularize
Yazid: Okay, (people) say it is in
a bad way. But look at statistics, the people who
converted to Islam in Europe and US after Sept 11.
Their priests are floored. Why?
Sept 11... maybe it is right what they did. People
like them (the Mujahideen who carried out the
shaheed operations) are willing to sacrifice
themselves for the sake of their love for Allah,
hoping for paradise.
There must be something right. Or else, everyone
will hate (Islam) and the conversion rates will go
down. You have to think this way.
I don't want you to agree with me, but I'm throwing
a rhetorical question so we can think. Who did the
marketing for Islam?
Malaysiakini: Azahari and Noordin,
the sort of people who are in the international media
spotlight, are considered to be marketing Islam?
Yazid: They did the marketing for
Islam. (Our detractors) want to portray us as 'bad'
but look at the result.
Malaysiakini: Is it because this
kind of conflict triggers people to study Islam?
Yazid: You study history. We never
started this thing, this war.
Malaysiakini: We, meaning your
group, or Muslims?
Yazid: Muslims. They triggered it,
(Muslims) got to defend ourselves. Ha! Go back to
history... Muslims never start any conflict. When they
started it, we have to defend ourselves, okay?
I went to Afghanistan to start this so-called
project because we have to defend ourselves. In order
to defend ourselves we must know what they're doing.
When we study... then they (enemies) will consider
you as a threat to them. Of course, we are a threat to
them. They will never allow you to be one up from
them. They will never allow it, but Muslims don't
I started ‘the project' before Sept 11 and when
Sept 11 happened, my laboratory (in Kandahar) got
bombed, my hospital got bombed. What happens then?
They will kill you before you can crawl. They won't
allow you to grow.
Malaysiakini: How do you justify
the death of innocent people? Even in the Qur'an, it
says you cannot kill women and children.
Yazid: Study Fiqh Jihadiyyah
(the jurisprudence of jihad), what you can do and what
you cannot do. In any fiqh, the ulama's
tend to differ in their opinion, even in very simple
things, let alone these big ones.
When these people (Mujahideen) carried out the
bombings, of course they weigh up these things. The
do's and don'ts, the can and cannot. What choices they
have. The majority of ulama's say no, but a
small minority of ulama's say yes, it can be
done. After the fall of the Abbasid empire in 1258,
there is no more Shari'ah (Islamic law)... So
it is our obligation to bring this thing (Khilafah)
Malaysiakini: How do you decide if
the cause is worthy?
Yazid: Before you do anything, you
need knowledge. Some people do the hajj without
knowing why but not the jihad. If you want to know
about science, you go to a professor with a PhD. If
you want to know about jihad, ask an ulama' who
go to jihad. Not the ulama' who teach in
The ulama's (who do jihad) says we can
conduct jihad, but we have to minimize all the kind of
things (the damage). That's what these people do.
Minimize the loss. How much damage did they do? (The
enemy) kills 1 million, we kill 3,000. Is (killing)
justifiable? Never justified, we don't want to do
that. But if they do to us....it's difficult. I am not
going to force people to agree with me.
Malaysiakini: Have you visited
your 'students' in Guantanamo Bay, or their family? Do
you feel guilty?
Yazid: Every job has its
hazards...these people (in Guantanamo Bay) they know
this. If they don't know, then they were not well
informed. But it was part of the knowledge they must
When they (the enemy) put me away...from my family,
I thought 'Hey!'. If you're going to Singapore,
and you see see exit signs for Batang Kali, Taiping,
Penang ... that means you're not going in the right
A verse in the Qur'an says to go to heaven, you
must find handcuffs, prison, exile. All those are
signs you must find. In my journey to heaven I see
these signs. Why worry? You think the people in
Guantanamo Bay are sad?
Malasyiakini: What about the
family of people who die in the bombings?
Yazid: What about the brothers of
mine who (the enemy) kill? Do you think about that?
Malaysiakini: If we don't want
this to happen to us, why should we do the same? Since
9/11, the attacks on Muslim countries by the Western
states have escalated. They may not be winning the
wars, but so many people die because of it.
Yazid: If we don't do this (attack
them), how sure are you that they would not do this
(to us)? It's the same thing. Let us die fighting..
Jihad is a search for life, not death. History has
proven that they will still attack. If the kafir
(non-believers) are good, then the Qur'an is
wrong. Allah said if we fight back, (the enemy) become
weak. (Recites verse 76 from the an-Nisa chapter of
"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah
, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of
Thaghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed,
the plot of Satan has ever been weak."
Allah told us to fight against the kuffar
who walk on satan's path. If we don't fight them they
will become stronger and you could be wiped out. That
is a verse. How can you defy the Qur'an? In the at-Tawba
(the Repentance) chapter, Allah says that, if we don't
go forth in Allah's cause, he will replace us with
Malaysiakini: Since you say you
have connections with the Taliban group, do you think
Osama's death will lead to a Taliban revival?
Yazid: Our religion will be
victorious not because of Osama Laden or Yazid Sufaat.
If God wills, we will succeed, if we do it right. It
is ordained. The Prophet has determined the way to do
it, just follow.
This victory will not come at our convenience or
when it fits our schedule. We have to remember that.
It's not a 'majority-wins' race.
Sometimes, we are not confident in Allah. Look at
the Prophet. When he went to war, he did his level
best, but it could never match the enemies'
capabilities in terms of strength, quality of
weaponry, etc. But why did he win?
When I tell the Special Branch officers that, they
say: "That was the Prophet. Who are you in
comparison?" (Laughs) . If that's our attitude,
then what can we do?